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Dr. ArvindWed May-24-06 04:05 PM
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" 2628 FUSE(+ 255 in scar + 1048 DEM) - patients update"


          

Dear Forum readers,
This patient's HT was discussed at the following link.

http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=12&topic_id=23674&mode=full

2628 scalp FUSE/fue grafts were placed in the recipient area.
The patient's desire and aim was to accomplish a low, youthful hairline.

The patient has maintained pictures of the recipient area over these past 12 months and has graciopusly shared them with us.
He has requested us to post his results on the forum.

Even though he is not a forum poster he feels that the forum has contributed richly to increase his awareness about hair transplants and he wants to contribute back to the forum by sharing his own successful result.

Regards,
Dr. A

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

  

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1 week to 1.5 month pictures
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6 months later pics
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All pictures in a single table for comparison
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RE: All pictures in a single table for comparison
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2628 FUSE/fue grafts - no strip grafts
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Email from patient
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Dr. ArvindWed May-24-06 04:50 PM
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#1. "1 week to 1.5 month pictures"
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Wed May-24-06 04:54 PM by Dr. Arvind

          

Following are the pictures that the patient took.
Here are the pictures in the first 1.5 months post op.




Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

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Dr. ArvindWed May-24-06 04:59 PM
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#2. "3 months to 4.5 months"
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Following are 3 months to 4.5 months post HT pictures.


Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

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Dr. ArvindWed May-24-06 05:02 PM
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#3. "6 months later pics"
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Following are pictures 6 to 6.5 months after the HT.


Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

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Dr. ArvindWed May-24-06 05:04 PM
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#4. "7.5 to 11 months"
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Following are pictures taken at various times from 7.5 to 11 months after the HT by the patient.

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

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Dr. ArvindWed May-24-06 05:09 PM
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#5. "All pictures in a single table for comparison"
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Following is a compilation of all the pictures starting from BEFORE, immeditely post op to present.
This may help prospective HT recipients to get an idea of what to expect over time.

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

Attachment #1, (jpg file)

  

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SunjamWed May-24-06 05:29 PM
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#7. "RE: All pictures in a single table for comparison"
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Wed May-24-06 05:34 PM by Sunjam

          

Hi Dr A,, Just so I'm clear this gent had 2628 strip grafts then added at the same time, 1048 Fue plus 1048 BH/DEM back into the fue donar sites? Were the 255 grafts used for the scar from the strip or are they from the 1048 FUE..Dont forget who gets kudos for the DEM idea...Maybe you'll consider a discount for me when/if i come for a visit to do work work on the crown?..

I just had a procuedure with Armani on the fron half but I will need work done on the back at some point in the near future as you'll see from the pics ill be posting later today.

Great work!

Regards,
Adam

  

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Dr. ArvindWed May-24-06 05:55 PM
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#8. "2628 FUSE/fue grafts - no strip grafts"
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>Hi Dr A,, Just so I'm clear this gent had 2628 strip grafts
>

No Sunjam,
The patient had 2628 FUSE/fue grafts.
No strip grafts in this procedure.
Wishing you a speedy recovery and good hair growth from your recent procedure.
Regards,
Dr. A

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

  

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bennstuFri May-26-06 03:30 PM
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#20. "RE: All pictures in a single table for comparison"
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I very much like the month apart follow up photos. The dramatic before after do not tell what to expect in the intervening months.

Apart from that, I like the way the temples have been closed to give the youthful hairline that every hairloss sufferer like me dreams off.
This puts Dr. A at par, if not better than Armani, H/W etc., where the hairline design is concerned.
All for a fraction of the price.
Now where do I sign up.

  

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HairSiteWed May-24-06 05:28 PM
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#6. "Email from patient"
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Wed May-24-06 05:28 PM by HairSite

  

          

The patient has sent me this, via Dr. Arvind, together with his pictures.

<QUOTE>
Hi Everyone

Iím 29 male who started losing my hair at age of 22 , I had a small Mini graft Procedure ( 450 grafts) 2 years back . was following different posts and experiences on the forum since December 2004 .

In April 2005 I decided to go for a procedure with Dr A , I had 2650 grafts transplanted at the front third of my scalp 53 cm2( all scalp hair), I also had 250 grafts transplanted into my previous Strip scar( 3 m x 10 cm) . in addition to that I was one of the first who tried donor exchange procedure Dr A introduced at that period , so I had 1000 body hair transplanted into Empty holes of the extracted hair from my scalp during the same procedure set .

Im on the move most of the time , so I didnít have time to post any photos or follow up the forum after my surgery , I might not be available to respond to most of the questions im anticipating after this post , although I will try my best to be here .

My results are great , I have no scars or any indications that I had 1000 grafts extracted from my body , my previous scalp scar disappears completely at Gu # 3 and above. And front scalp area looks good and getting better by time . I will leave the photos to tell more.

I apologies for the quality of the photos since it was taken by a simple mobile phone camera , but at least it gives an idea of the progress.



  

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ericgomesWed May-24-06 06:22 PM
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#9. "RE: Email from patient"
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I wish the very same hairline. If only I could...

Repair HT with 1100 FUHT grafts,2080+ FUSE(fue) grafts + 100 leg hair grafts for DEM by Dr.A. I have appeared on live tv show after HT.
http://www.geocities.com/ericgomes2000/

E-mail superman_1971@indiatimes.com

  

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#10. "RE: Email from patient"
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Nice presentation but poor quality photos. Y

  

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#11. "RE: Email from patient"
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Yes photos could be better. What I find interesting is the 1000 Dem grafts planted. Any clear photos around showing the Dem grafts planted into holes and what the area looks like now? I belive Dr. Cole does similar FIT farming but we really do not know the sucsess of these procedures. Thanks and good luck.

  

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SkywalkerWed May-24-06 07:45 PM
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#12. "RE: Email from patient"
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Dont forget who gets kudos for the DEM idea...Maybe you'll consider a discount for me when/if i come for a visit to do work work on the crown?...

Good grief.

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mishuWed May-24-06 10:31 PM
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#13. "RE: Email from patient"
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Photos are terrible...with all due respect Dr.A you need to invest in a better camera...fast!

  

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WantAllMyHairBackWed May-24-06 10:49 PM
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#14. "RE: Email from patient"
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Wed May-24-06 10:50 PM by WantAllMyHairBack

          

>Photos are terrible...with all due respect Dr.A you need to
>invest in a better camera...fast!


the patient is the one who sent in the photos...at least that is what hairsite said in the above post. for crying out loud, hairsite even named the title of his response "Email from patient"

a lot of times people here are attacking the wrong person for the picture quality.

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I want all my damn hair back!

  

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Dr. ArvindThu May-25-06 06:24 AM
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#16. "RE: Email from patient"
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>Photos are terrible...with all due respect Dr.A you need to
>invest in a better camera...fast!

Dear Mishu,
I appreciate your concern about picture quality.
However, a vast majority of our patients travel long distances for their procedures. It is usually not possible for us to meet them for their post operative pictures.
We have to depend on them taking time and effort to accumulate and send pictures of their results.
These pictures, except the one taken during surgery, are all taken by the patient himself. The patient does not happen to be from India.

Regards,
Dr. A

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

  

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SunjamThu May-25-06 05:00 AM
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#15. "Skywalker"
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What are you trying to say?..The discount comment was a joke young jedi... Was that not clear, you know, with the happy face and all?

The DEM being my idea wasn't, ask Dr. A.

D. Vader

  

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#17. "RE: Skywalker"
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Dr.A my sincere apologies. Did not pay enough attention to the posts' title.

  

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#18. "RE: dr a"
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hey Dr A, Im still confused about ur FUSE/FUE procedure, i was told its not strip but its not quiet fue? can you or anyone please elabroate on the difference/similarities?

  

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#19. "J22"
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Fri May-26-06 07:50 AM by Dr. Arvind

          

>hey Dr A, Im still confused about ur FUSE/FUE procedure, i
>was told its not strip but its not quiet fue? can you or
>anyone please elabroate on the difference/similarities?

Dear J22,
FUE, as I have said before, is a concept. Not the name of any one technique.
FUE is the concept that involves extraction of individual follucular unit grafts.

Different doctors use different properietory methods to perform this follicular unit extraction.

The techniques that we use, incorporate a "separation" of the follicular unit under direct magnified vision from its dermal attachments. Therefore, the name FUSE (Follicular unit "separation" extraction).

There are doctors who perform FUE as a blind process. We do not.

To differentiate the different techniques that perform FUE, the different doctors have named them as per their wishes.

Regards,
Dr. A

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

  

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#21. "Oh dear."
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Fri May-26-06 04:04 PM by Skywalker

          

The DEM being my idea wasn't, ask Dr. A.

Od course I don't think trying to negotiate a discount is wrong, that is your prerogative and if you can get one then good for you, but the idea that you are looking to do it on the back of DEM 'invention' is silly.
The idea of DEM (not the name) has been bounced around ever since BHT was first tried. At the time it was dismissed immediately on cost grounds, FUE/BHT then was just too expensive. That was years ago, before I had even heard of Dr A. Dr A.'s prices have made it possible again, although personally I doubt I would go for it even now as it does not suit my requirements.
Maybe you introduced the idea to Dr A. - but come on - it is not exactly brain surgery is it? If you think you came up with it then I am sorry to say you are kidding yourself, but ultimately does it really matter?

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#22. "RE: Oh dear."
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It doesnt really matter skywalker.
Sun was speaking in jest, IMO.

  

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#23. "RE: Oh dear."
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Fri May-26-06 10:13 PM by Sunjam

          

Lordy,,,Skywalker, Dr. A is the 1st doctor, that I know of, to use BH to fill the donor area on the back of the head. He got the idea from this forum. If you can find the thread, he admitts that I was the one who gave him the idea. I inititally brought the idea to the boards attention and was laughed off the thread..low and behold, Dr A comes out with DEM a number of months later. In fact another gent offered the same idea not knowing that i already did and took credit for it. At that time i mentioned in his thread that people thought i was crazy making the suggestion a while back but that it was now being taken seriously. It's in the files mate...Its not brain surgery, your right..But I made the initially suggestion public on this forum...If there was another HT doc out there doing it before Dr. A, I like to hear about it??? If the idea was bounced around before Dr A's practise came about, Then surely Dr. A would have known about it without the help of the board ..show me the bouncing ball? Everythings on record here.

Sun

  

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#24. "RE: Oh dear."
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Not really a big deal who suggested it on the boards. Dr.Cole offers FIT farming(SAME CONCEPT) When? who really cares? Does it work is the main thing! Any clear photos of many bh replanted into the back of the head on a consistent basis to really see if it is all really worth it?

  

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#25. "RE: Oh dear."
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Good words Duck..From my perspective, I'd rather see BHT succeed or fail in the less conspicuous areas rather than on the top right. Use the back of the canvas rather than the front where its more noticeable. Dr A. has pics on his archive showing headway. Maybe he could share them again? To me it makes a great deal of sense because the donor sites are now available as recipient sites for BHT.

Sun

  

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#26. "RE: Oh dear."
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Sat May-27-06 01:32 PM by Skywalker

          

Sunjam,
this is ridiculous, if you believe you are the inventor of the idea of putting body hair in gaps in the donor area then go ahead and think it. I think we can safely say that I am not going to lose sleep over you believing this and frankly this is a surreal argument from my point of view.



With regard to DEM going forward I think the problem is this:

Supposing you "overfarm" the donor area using FUE (say you take out 10,000 grafts) because you are putting body hair in the holes and the body hair doesn't grow - what happens then? You are f*cked, that is what happens!
I think the only way to safely do it is to take a safe number out (say 3,000) and then see if the body hair grows - if it does you can repeat the process in 12 months time.
So as well as being expensive (unless the doctor does the DEM for free) it is extremely laborious. It seems to me if your body hair can be used as filler it is cheaper and better perhaps to stick it straight on top of your head.
I am not saying DEM has no application, I just think you have to be cautious with it. I think there is also the potential for any doctor who is having BHT yield issues to more easily disguise how much of the BHT actually grew in the donor area. In the recipient area a patient is likely to be able to see better and thus be far more critical of any yield issues.

Before anybody wets their pants on these boards thinking I am attacking 'their' doctor (EricGomes???) - this is not an attack on ANY doctor - I think there are still a few yield questions with fine calibre body hair to be clarified. I am waiting to see how that pans out as I do not yet have a handle on how fine is too fine to successfully grow (or even whether fine body hair does grow but just perhaps takes a lot longer).

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#27. "RE: Oh dear."
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Sun May-28-06 10:20 PM by Sunjam

          

10,000 harvested FUE from the head? Can't be done, yet, and as you suggested, would be over harvesting. Having said that, BHT appears to have a 50% success rate and higher depending on the doctor. There will be a day where 10,000 FUE hairs can be harvested from the head with 10,000 BHT replacing them at say, a 70% success growth rate. This IS feasible.

Bottem line is BHT would be better utilized at the back rather than the top, There's no arguing that.

get some sleep.

Sun

  

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#28. "RE: Oh dear."
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Using BHT in the back may be a good thing. Why? For most, your body hair has different characteristics. Therefore, it may look better to have that look throughout your head rather than in just one location.



Skywalker,
"Supposing you "overfarm" the donor area using FUE (say you take out 10,000 grafts) "

I just want to point out that, considering that more BHT may be used on top, that would mean a FUE HT of well over 20, 000 grafts in one visit!!!
At this point in time, the only place I can see that happening is Dr Arvind and even then, highly unlikely.

  

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