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SchmoeTue Jan-16-07 10:28 AM
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"7.5 Month Update!"


          

I havent posted since 3 months along.. a lot has changed.

I want some feedback guys! I'm shooting for another 2600 grafts this year.. a small amount to close off the temples (maybe 500-600 total) and the rest on top, all BHT to help fill in the diffuse thinning.. what do you guys think??

http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/10-Schmoe

  

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helpmeoutTue Jan-16-07 06:30 PM
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#1. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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Hey your hair looks great ! Congrats.

  

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HairSiteTue Jan-16-07 07:19 PM
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#2. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:56 PM by HairSite

  

          

The before pics are on page 1 of Schmoe's journal. Here's a couple of quick before and after
shots for easy reference.

BEFORE


BEFORE


BEFORE


7.5 MONTHS - WET


7.5 MONTHS - DRY


Schmoe's complete journal can be found at
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/10-Schmoe

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johnpTue Jan-16-07 11:00 PM
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#3. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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Tue Jan-16-07 11:42 PM by johnp

          

Nice job framing your face, quite natural it's hard to tell that is a transplant. I love the less is more look. Would you say you were a norwood 4 before going to Dr. A?

  

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gillenatorWed Jan-17-07 12:21 AM
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#4. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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Just looked at your before pics too and it's no wonder that you're very happy. Congrats and best wishes as you continue your journey.

Gillenator

I am not a doctor; all opinions shared are not medical advice but my own views. Contributing Physicians: Dr. Glenn Charles, Dr. Jim DeYarman, Dr. Paul Rose, Dr. Ron Shapiro, Dr. Christian Bisanga, Drs. Bob True & Bob Dorin

  

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marcoWed Jan-17-07 01:57 AM
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#5. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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You look goood Schmoe. I have followed your journey over the last few years and it's great that you are solving the balding problem successfully. I read your report with interest especially regarding the scab. Judging from the photos I think you greatly underestimate the improvement. You could easily be content with what you have and wait longer to see how thing progress before going for another procedure. It was also interesting to hear your initial concerns during the first few months. Well, looking great now. Good work Dr.A!!!

  

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Mr FrodoWed Jan-17-07 07:10 AM
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#6. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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Schmoe I have followed your journey too, I am happy for you, this is a success story. Some very bald people are forced to wear a mini combover even after a hair transplant. What's special about your design is that youa re able to cut your hair short and still look natural. Your pics speak volume.

  

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SchmoeWed Jan-17-07 09:08 AM
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#7. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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guys thanks for the responses!

johnp.. I'm not quite sure what i was because my hair was so diffuse there wasn't really a beginning and an end.. I was in denial so i would have said a NW2. lol.. seriously tho I'd say an extremely diffused NW3

not sure What I'd be considered now, maybe a full NW2? (in the front)

gillenator and Frodo thanks for the compliments!
it was a big concern of mine wondering how natural the hairline looks.. although it's not the lowest hairline, i think it looks like a very natural recession.

marco I will wait a little longer to see how the Body Hair progresses, however, I also know that I'm going to lose the back, and as you can see from the top down dry and the side view(dry) the hair is pretty thin and light already.. it looks better because I have light hair and the lighting scenario, but catch me in the right daytime lighting and it still looks pretty bald.

so I have 2 objectives if I go for another procedure; my INITIAL objective was a new hairline; mission accomplished.

this next one I would like to start filling in the back because I already know where it's headed, not only that but the front is very full now it makes the back look worse.

the second goal is to soften up the temples.. they look good in the pics, I won't lie, however I see a lot of pictures and I have a very hard wedge shape, that make the sides and top look like 2 different entities (if that makes sense), closing the temples will merge them as one (see Dr. Armani's post further down)

so like I said Dr A did great with what he had to work with, I feel it's almost time to take the next step though. (not a drastic one mind you)

thanks for the support guys!

  

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JacksonWed Jan-17-07 09:12 AM
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#8. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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Congrats Shmoe! Havent talk to you in awhile, but glad your decision has came to fruition, I would say your on your way to a solid NW2 , that is what you are framed for right now at least,

man that blonde hair does wonders for an HT (at least for us pale white dudes), do you lighten it or is that your natural color?

any looks great, very natural from every view...

congrats!

  

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SchmoeWed Jan-17-07 10:32 AM
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thanks dood.. low contrast helps indeed;
I don't lighten it, that's the natural color.. the reason being is because I still use prothik in the back to blend the front with back.. although bleaching it may not be a bad idea.. only problem is that i start to look like casper the ghost.

  

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JacksonWed Jan-17-07 10:38 AM
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you know, it is wierd, they say that wet hair makes thinning hair look worst, and I agree with longer hair,,,

but when you keep the sides short and the top around an inch, I think when you wet your hair or use a wet gel, it actually makes hair look better....

I think your wet pic make you look the best....

If that dude helpme007 would ever listen to me, he needs your exact hairstyle in that wet pic...

any guy who has your after HT hair or around it should go for that look, (short sides, around 1 to 2 inch top, lightened hair, wet look)

anyway it's a great look in those pix for your HT...

peace and cheers to more growth!

  

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SchmoeWed Jan-17-07 10:58 AM
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yeah I've been examining hairstyles as well.. the Transplanted hair looks BETTER wet I totally agree.. it groups together nicely and makes some mean spikes.. HOWEVER.. the back is still very thin and there's a lot of scalp seen when I try that style. So I think transplanted lower density actually looks a lot better wet than thinning higher density.

I also used to keep the sides short.. however for some reason I feel it amplifies the recessed temples.. in those pictures the hair is equal length all around .. its just not sticking out on the sides.. it definitely helps mask the temples a little. It looks a little messier, but the neat and clean look doesn't so much work for me..

lately I blow dry my hair.. then throw a bunch of mousse in it then blow dry it a gain.. i've been getting this killer fro look going.. think Lion-O from thundercats.. or feyd harkonnen (sting)... who was also thinning.. and receding



to ME personally.. that's a cool look.. (besides the funny blue suit)

but yeah witht he thinning hair.. you gotta cut it short... it looks unhealthy long..

  

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I like your result, have never followed your story before but think what you have achieved is great. Congratulations. Have you only had fue? When you have your 2nd procedure will you shave down and post donor pics? How old are you also?

  

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marcoWed Jan-17-07 07:26 PM
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#13. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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Wed Jan-17-07 07:30 PM by marco

          

>view(dry) the hair is pretty thin and light already.. it looks
>better because I have light hair and the lighting scenario,
>but catch me in the right daytime lighting and it still looks
>pretty bald.


That's so annoying. It only goes to show that even when one tries to take an honest photo it still deceptive! I think you are probably being a bit hard on yourself and I remember a transplant salesman telling me that the patient is often his worst critic. When I look at your photos carefully I can see where you are coming from but the point is this. As of now, whereas you looked like a balding man before, you now look like someone with thinnish hair behind the hairline in a natural way as is normal for many men, not balding at all and your hair would not attract any attention regarding "he's the balding guy". It seems much more like hair that can now look full with a bit of concealer and I would like your comment on that. I can see that another round might finish the job from your point of view and also protect you from the extending thinning that will take place in the next decade though.

>I have a very hard wedge shape, that make the sides and top
>look like 2 different entities (if that makes sense), closing
>the temples will merge them as one (see Dr. Armani's post
>further down)

Yes, I did notice that but didn't want to mention it because it detracts from the main point that your results are great. When I saw your results it did remind me of Armani's post not just in terms of closing the temples but also relating to the angulation of some of the hairline. I think that Dr. A could take this kind of thing into consideration on your next visit. When I looked more carefully at the pics, I felt that the angulation at the front may actually be very good (looking at the wet pics). The mid frontal hairline must have been determined by your existing hair so I am sure all is fine. Anyway this is about looking good and feeling good and not being know for your hair rather than an academic exercise on whether hair number 30024 is 1.5 degrees out!

Good luck. Keep us posted and could you let us know regarding the question about improved ease of using concealers.

  

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Wed Jan-17-07 07:36 PM by ipod

          

"low contrast helps indeed"

good pt about hair/skin contrast. If this was done on someone with dark hair, the outcome would have been very different and not nearly as nice. btw, you had to be a norwood 4 before, your whole front is created by ht. It does look good wearing your hair short like this.

oh, don't grow your hair long n do the combover even if you feel that the density is not there. you look natural now, don't ruin it.

  

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#15. "RE: about hair color"
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Schmoe,
It's good to see you making progress towards your objectives. I agree with 100% on the effect of the temples. It makes quite a difference and your result will look even better when you have this completed.

17,000 Actively Growing BHT by Dr Umar (Sept 2005-November 2006)

www.myhairtransformation.com

  

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Dr. ArvindThu Jan-18-07 09:57 AM
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#16. "Schmoe"
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Dear Schmoe,
Thank you for posting your update and pictures.

Thanks also for posting the photoshop version of the alternate plan/future work you would like to go for.
Hair restoration is an ongoing process for many and, keeping that in mind, such patient input is very valuable.

I agree with your opinion on how the temple alteration can be beneficial.
In the end, the limiting factor is mostly the donor hair availability. With newer donor resources becoming available, that factor is becoming less of a hindrance.
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There is one thing I find especially valuable in your approach.

Many a times, I get repair HT cases, who say that if they could do it all over again, they will go for a FUSE/fue + BHT approach instead of the strip. Youngman, who was recently getting his HT performed, was speaking about this too.

A young individual going for his first HT, before he is a NW5/6, would do well to read your account and the choices you made, before planning his HT.


Regards and thanks once again,
Dr. A

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
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e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
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Scalp & Body hair transplants.

  

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SchmoeFri Jan-19-07 09:29 AM
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#17. "RE: Schmoe"
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Fri Jan-19-07 09:36 AM by Schmoe

          

Thanks for the thoughts Dr. A (and the good work!)
BHT makes it possible for a lot of people whom it wasn't possible before. If we all had unlimited scalp donor, It may be a different story, but we don't, so people need to start realizing one day that they're going to be a lot more bald than they are now, and take that into account before ANY procedure.


oh one last thing; I mentioned in my blog about a split I had in the scalp causing no hair growth (about 1 1/4 inch long by 2mm wide) it's not noticeable with longer hair, but it's still there. I awoke one morning and noticed the split, do you have any advice or suggestions for me, or other patients to avoid a scenario?

  

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#18. "RE: Schmoe"
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>oh one last thing; I mentioned in my blog about a split I had
>in the scalp causing no hair growth (about 1 1/4 inch long by
>2mm wide) it's not noticeable with longer hair, but it's still
>there. I awoke one morning and noticed the split, do you have
>any advice or suggestions for me, or other patients to avoid a
>scenario?

Not 100% sure what you are talking about, but it sounds like you weren't keeping your scalp hydrated enough during the healing process??

Hoping for BHT results!

http://bhtadventresults.blogspot.com/

  

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#19. "Question for Dr A"
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Dear Dr A
Do u mean to say that a NW2 would always be better off with a
FUSE/FUE and BHT? Even if it is just the front hair line? and not the vertex or crown? What are the disadvantages of a strip HT for a NW2? What about the factor of anticipated future hair-loss.....does it not have any bearing on the choice of method? I mean, ultimately if one foresees a continual hair-loss(hairline receeding to NW5/6) would it make s0 much of a difference whether it is strip or FUE? Maybe I am wrong, but i thought FUE or FUHT is more of aesthetics(the scar),, or is there more to it?

  

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#20. "RE: Question for Dr A"
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I may be able to answer this as I had the exact conversation with DR. A while in India. BHT is great when used in combo with fuse or fuht; On a virgin scalp why go for strip though when modern day technology allows for great results without showing any signs of surgery. On a NW2 one can only expect to loose more hair in the future. With this said you need to be conservative on the scalp grafts you have. Say for example you have 5000 fuse grafts on your head. If you are a NW2 or NW3 it would of course not be smart to use say 3000 grafts in the hairline as you are going to have a tough time covering the rest of your head when your hair loss progresses. The other reason Dr. A likes to use BHT in combo with fuse is this. As seen BHT does grow and look slightly different then scalp grafts...(although some body hair in some patients has been seen to take on scalp hair characteristics). With this said if you use all scalp grafts in one area and all BHT grafts in another you would or should I say might be able to tell there is a difference in the two of course leading to an unnatural look. I hope this helps

3 strip procedures
1st..awful waste of 8 thousand...
2nd...MHR..awful results
3rd...Dr. Arvind...Great Results going back again

  

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#22. "youngman"
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thanks youngman. i understand that it is wise to use BHT in conjunction with Fuse...my original question is though if one were to consider fuht(due to the reason like not wanting to shave the head)...is it too bad a choice to go in for strip fuht? Though given a choice i think fuse would be a better idea.

  

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SteeelfannSat Jan-27-07 07:11 AM
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#29. "RE: Schmoe"
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I have this to say and I welcome all comments:

I have ALWAYS heard that FUI kills too many follicles as opposed to the strip sessions which almost all follicles survive.

That is why I have opted for strip.

Please, comments welcomed.

  

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#21. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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nice color

do you think it looks better wet or dry?

s

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SchmoeSun Jan-21-07 10:44 AM
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#23. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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the FRONT looks outstanding wet.
unfortunately, the back doesnt, therefore I have to keep it dry for now. until surgery 2.

the front actually looks better gel'd up than it did in high school (slight thinning already)
If i could get the back to look like the front I'd be a happy guy. (happier)

  

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#24. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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That is a tough question as every patient is diff. As I said above I have had now had all three types of procedures and if I could do it all over I would never get a strip due only to the strip scar.

3 strip procedures
1st..awful waste of 8 thousand...
2nd...MHR..awful results
3rd...Dr. Arvind...Great Results going back again

  

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#25. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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It's hard to tell the difference in some photos because some of the photos are in daylight and some are in yellow light. Taking a photo of the whole face would give us an idea if the hair suits you and dry hair looks more fuller on your head than when its wet.

  

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SchmoeMon Jan-22-07 08:39 AM
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#26. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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I'll see what I can do,
however, ALL of the pictures were taken in the same lighting.. the digital camera happens to switch back and forth depending on the angle of the shot (2 cameras have done this now.. must have something to do with the lighting in my bathroom)

  

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#27. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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i agree.... the lighting through me off a little...

well... all my prayers came true.... my hair transplant came a reality and Armani did a great job... thank you Jesus...
thanks for everyone's help too

proscar fin 1.25 mm
Walgreens Minoxidil 5%
Perrigo Ketoconazole 2 %
multi-vitamins and Minerals
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/35-Haleystudios

  

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kgillTue Jan-23-07 08:23 AM
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#28. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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How are things healing haleystudios?

  

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haleystudiosMon Jan-29-07 11:43 PM
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#30. "RE: 7.5 Month Update!"
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oh just great.. .going through an ulgy stage

i am just about 1 month post op, and here is an 8th day post op pic

proscar fin 1.25 mm
Walgreens Minoxidil 5%
Perrigo Ketoconazole 2 %
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http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/35-Haleystudios

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