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jotronicFri Feb-23-07 12:53 AM
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"Dr. Hasson, 7761 all scalp strip grafts, 1 session at five months"
Fri Feb-23-07 12:57 AM by jotronic

  

          

London Lad is a regular contributor to a couple of other forums. He recently posted his five month results photos so I have put them together with his befores. London Lad had 7761 grafts with Dr. Hasson in ONE strip session. What allowed for this was a very high amount of donor area laxity and a very high donor area density. He also performed scalp exercises for a few months before his procedure.

The after photos are not as large as I'd like but I think he took the photos with a cell phone camera. I will see if he can get higher resolution photos in the future.

Before...








Before/after...







Joe Tillman
aka, Jotronic
Hasson & Wong
www.hassonandwong.com
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Joe@HassonandWong.com

1.800.859.2266

The Truth Is In The Results

7917 FU Grafts

  

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Good timing
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apples to oranges
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Not really
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      Great Result - questions
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           RE: Great Result - questions
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RE: Dr. Hasson, 7761 all scalp strip grafts, 1 ses...
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                RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?
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                     RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?
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                     RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?
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                          RE: Is he a NW5??
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                               RE: Is he a NW5??
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                     RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?
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                          propecia?
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                          RE: propecia?
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                               RE: Looks like even more than that
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                                    RE: Looks like even more than that
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                          RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?
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ReadyFreddyFri Feb-23-07 03:46 AM
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#1. "Good timing"
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Fri Feb-23-07 03:47 AM by ReadyFreddy

  

          

Compare to this guy who also had 7000 grafts, except that it's body hair. There is no way this is 90% yield any way you dice it.

  

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HanginInthereFri Feb-23-07 10:23 AM
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#2. "apples to oranges"
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Fri Feb-23-07 10:28 AM by HanginInthere

          

comparing apples and oranges
7000 scalp grafts is probably about 15000 to 17000 hairs because of the multiple hair grafts on the scalp
these hairs are THICK vibrant long growing scalp hairs

7000 body hair grafts is probably 7000 hairs IF YOU ARE LUCKY, and those hairs are SHORT THIN wispy body hairs half of which are not even in the proper growth faze to even GROW after they are transplanted

did you even see a photo of the body donor hair on that guy? its barely even what could be considered HAIR


also the scalp transplant patient has good coverage BEFORE he got his transplant, he is younger,

the body hair guy has like a NW 7, the scalp transplant guy is probably a NW

so basically you have a young NW4 guy getting like 17000 SCALP hairs
and he looks very good afterwards
then you are comparing this to a NW 7 older guy who gets 7000 wispy thin short body hairs on a totally bald scalp and temples and comparing their after pics and saying SEE SEE the scalp hair guy looks much better he got a much better yield

apples to oranges



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arunFri Feb-23-07 03:11 PM
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#7. "Not really"
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You are wrong comparing the 7000 bht patient to this one.
If you want to compare strip scalp results, then this is what you will, in fairness, compare this with. A Nw 5 with 4200 strip grafts.


http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=12&topic_id=50886&mode=full










But I have an easy way to solve this. Let Jotronic/ Drs. H or W see sphinx picture and say whether they will even take on his case.
http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=12&topic_id=51745&mesg_id=51746&page=



  

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checkinginFri Feb-23-07 10:51 PM
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#8. "Great Result - questions"
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Couple of quick questions.

How old is this guy?

Can we see some intraoperative (strip location) pics?

In the back with his head buzzed, it looks like he only has about 3 inches or so of hair in his wreath. It looks like this is going to continue to shrink from both the top and bottom. Is that true?

BTW, I'm sure this guy is extremely pleased with his result!!!!!

Hoping for BHT results!

http://bhtadventresults.blogspot.com/

  

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jotronicSun Feb-25-07 12:24 PM
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#14. "RE: Great Result - questions"
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Checkingin,

"Can we see some intraoperative (strip location) pics?"

I'll look for them on Monday and post them if I've got 'em.

"In the back with his head buzzed, it looks like he only has about 3 inches or so of hair in his wreath. It looks like this is going to continue to shrink from both the top and bottom. Is that true?"

I think that perhaps it looks this way because his hair is so short. We wouldn't be so aggressive on anyone that we thought would get much worse.

Joe Tillman
aka, Jotronic
Hasson & Wong
www.hassonandwong.com
www.hairtransplantmentor.com
Joe@HassonandWong.com

1.800.859.2266

The Truth Is In The Results

7917 FU Grafts

  

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Old BaldyFri Feb-23-07 01:55 PM
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#3. "RE: Dr. Hasson, 7761 all scalp strip grafts, 1 session ..."
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Fri Feb-23-07 02:10 PM by Old Baldy

          

Great results Joe!

Guys, IMHO, if you are suffering from extreme baldness and want an HT, you can't go wrong with Hasson and Wong IMHO. These doctors are amazing IMHO.

I simply can't believe how they can turn guys with NW500's (LOL!) into non-balding looking men. And they do it consistently.

The classics were Joe, NicNitro and Bobman. Those guys were very, very bald, yet H & W made them HAIRY!!

Hangin': No offense to that young guy suffering from extreme MPB, but you said he was a NW4 - to me - he looks like a NW25 for Godsakes

NW 3V

  

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BushFri Feb-23-07 02:27 PM
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#4. "RE: Dr. Hasson, 7761 all scalp strip grafts, 1 session ..."
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This helps prove my point about BHT.

Any BHT surgery is/should be considered 100% research in basis!!!!!!!!!!1

  

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MPBFri Feb-23-07 02:49 PM
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#5. "RE: Dr. Hasson, 7761 all scalp strip grafts, 1 session ..."
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Fri Feb-23-07 02:50 PM by MPB

          

>This helps prove my point about BHT.

Bush- Just exactly what proof are you referring to?

  

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BushFri Feb-23-07 02:52 PM
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#6. "RE: Dr. Hasson, 7761 all scalp strip grafts, 1 session ..."
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BHT is should be considered a procedure under the context of "research only".

  

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gillenatorFri Feb-23-07 11:28 PM
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#9. "RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?"
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How many potential harvestable grafts does he have left in the scalp? The angulations in the crown are awesome.

Gillenator

I am not a doctor; all opinions shared are not medical advice but my own views. Contributing Physicians: Dr. Glenn Charles, Dr. Jim DeYarman, Dr. Paul Rose, Dr. Ron Shapiro, Dr. Christian Bisanga, Drs. Bob True & Bob Dorin

  

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JonnyEFri Feb-23-07 11:57 PM
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#10. "RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?"
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this guy obviously has unreal laxity, how many grafts would you say he has left?

Minoxidil twice a day
1.25 proscar once a day
3083 grafts by Dr. Armani in April 2004

  

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EnderSat Feb-24-07 12:35 AM
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#11. "RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?"
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Sat Feb-24-07 12:36 AM by Ender

          

I find it really interesting (and comforting) that you (H&W) classify his donor area as really dense. To me it doesnt seem that dense...but I am happy that H&W thinks it is because this guy is probably exactly what I would look like as a NW5. Same donor charactersics, mine is actually still quite a bit better/thicker.

The tranformation is awesome. Gives me hope that even in the worst case, if I were to loose all my hair to a NW5 - I could actually get something like this done and look like this guy. Really sweet.

Ender

  

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pharoBoySat Feb-24-07 06:33 PM
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#12. "RE: Is he a NW5??"
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He seems to be a diffuse thiner with a NW5 pattern, but he's not a true NW5. In fact, It's clear that his hair on top, was buzzed for the surgery, and that makes it look thinner than it really is.

There's no doubt that it's a great strip result. The temples and the crown have been filled. But let's be clear, the guy had tons of pre-existing hair on top.

His donar area seems to be just 3 inches, like mine. I would like to see how his donar area looks like now

Jo, what ws the width of the removed strip ?

  

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therapySun Feb-25-07 06:30 AM
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#13. "RE: Is he a NW5??"
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Jo, what does his hairline look like? Can he style his hair differently instead of brushing his hair forward?

  

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jotronicSun Feb-25-07 12:25 PM
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#15. "RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?"
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Sun Feb-25-07 12:30 PM by jotronic

  

          

Gillenator,

He has a few thousand left easily.

Ender,

Not only is his donor dense, it is more dense than almost anyone we've seen. Dr. Hasson commented that he's anywhere from 130 per cm2 to 150 per cm2 depending on which area of his donor you are looking.

Pharoboy,

He did indeed have some hair before the surgery but we didn't shave his head. He had it this way for about seven years. While there is hair, it's not THAT much hair. I think his donor strip was roughly 2cm wide and maybe 30cm long. I don't have his chart here at home but I'll check it out next week.

Therapy,

I have no idea what his hairline looks like. He lives in London and these pictures are the only ones I've seen. He posted them on another site. Hopefully he'll post more shots with different hair styles and with higher resolution. If he does, I'll post them here.

Joe Tillman
aka, Jotronic
Hasson & Wong
www.hassonandwong.com
www.hairtransplantmentor.com
Joe@HassonandWong.com

1.800.859.2266

The Truth Is In The Results

7917 FU Grafts

  

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thegreek2Sun Feb-25-07 08:35 PM
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#16. "propecia?"
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Result that can only be achieved if he is a good responder to propecia or dutasteride.Otherwise 7000 grafts with that much loss would never look that good.

Its just a normal transplant its not a miracle!!!the miracle is in the drugs

there are 2 kind of transplants and cannot be compared...the ones in conjuction with fin or dut and the drug free ones

  

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#17. "RE: propecia?"
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Mon Feb-26-07 06:26 PM by Ender

          

Pharo...this guy is definately a NW5...maybe even boardering a 6...even many nw6's still have SOME thinning hair left on top...



Joe...that makes me really happy that he has superior density!!! I buzz my hair all the time and I have a bit better donor than this gu yay..I guess it makes sense because I used to have super thick amazing wavy hair all over my head

Nevertheless great results...i'm sure hes happy that hes not bald anymore.

Ender

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gillenatorMon Feb-26-07 11:59 PM
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#18. "RE: Looks like even more than that"
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I am just amazed at the patient's level of virgin density. He's definitely an exception to the rule. I still think he has even more than two thiousand left, as long as his laxity is adequate. He can always do FUE in the future for touch ups.

Gillenator

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JonnyETue Feb-27-07 12:35 AM
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#19. "RE: Looks like even more than that"
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i guarantee this guy has way more than 2000 grafts left.

Minoxidil twice a day
1.25 proscar once a day
3083 grafts by Dr. Armani in April 2004

  

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jtelecomTue Feb-27-07 08:55 PM
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#20. "RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?"
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Call me nutty, but I don't see this guy as having anything other than normal density - especially on the sides and lower back. I think that his hair in the very back/bottom of his head is quite thin. Nevertheless, this is an excellent result.

Jtelecom

  

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seemorTue Mar-27-07 03:54 AM
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#21. "RE: How many potential scalp grafts left?"
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The average person has over 8,000 grafts available. Why are you guys so surprised by this? Itís clear this guy as average density.

  

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