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HairSiteTue Mar-13-07 01:08 AM
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"Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
Tue Mar-13-07 03:56 PM by HairSite

  

          

Boomboom, Dr. Arvind's patient. BHT repair case.
8,000 hairs or about 5,000 2/3 body hair grafts

Comments from Boomboom:

"Well it has been 11 months since I received my first bh grafts with Dr. A.

Altogether I recieved about 5000 2 hair (and some 3 hair) body hair grafts. 3000-3500 were placed in the front of the head to begin the process of "naturalizing" the plugs placed there 27 years ago. The rest on the back of my head by the shotgun scars.

Our plan is for me to go in 3-4 more times. This has been delayed somewhat because of my career changes.

I took a few pics with flash and without."



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Feel free to check out Boomboom's personal journal for more pics
http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/8-boomboom

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OTOH!!
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      BHT as a filler
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           donor hair?
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           RE: donor hair?
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Not trying to be negative, but ...
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      Boomboom, Im happy for ya' man
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      RE: Not trying to be negative, but ... Well said
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           RE: Not trying to be negative, but ... Well said
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                you guys need to get real open your eyes
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                               You guys dont like???
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xairyhay1Tue Mar-13-07 04:55 AM
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#1. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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Boomboom, man, our hearts are with you... totally. However, for 5k grafts, it just isn't there. That coverage is worth far less than they charged. Not that they overcharged. Just that all the doc's hard work and pain/suffering on your part hardly amounts to enough hair to even be worth the trouble. Sorry, but I genuinely hope things continue to improve for you.

  

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arunTue Mar-13-07 05:24 AM
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#2. "OTOH!!"
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xairyhay. You strike a chord. I expect to see more for 5000 grafts. Topshiny with 5000 bht looks way more covered than BB.
On the other hand, Dr. Arvind may be right. The results depend on the type of body hair.
Considering that BB is a nw 7 with lots of area to cover, his first 5000 grafts seem to have served their purpose of camoflaging the plugs. It will be all the way up from here. Best of luck BB.

  

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NoHairNoPrayerTue Mar-13-07 05:40 AM
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#3. "BHT as a filler"
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Again, unless one does 20,000 or so grafts, and has gorilla type body hair (or Heliboy for that matter ), the coverage with BHT wont be there. BHT usage is a filler as Dr. Cole and others said. If you mix regular hair and some of these will create Toppik type effect to save some of the donor at the back.

A strip with about 7-8000g would have done better in this case (200 square cm at 40g per) and add the BHT for filling some gaps here and there.

  

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HanginInthereTue Mar-13-07 05:49 AM
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#4. "donor hair?"
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Tue Mar-13-07 05:53 AM by HanginInthere

          

I think that hairsite should make a request to hair trans docs posting
body hair results to post a pic of the long body donor hair before the transplant

otherwise how can we possibly compare results

boom boom if he had thick course healthy body hair, and got these results
would definitely make most of us think twice about chancing body hair

however if he had thin wispy short colorless weak body hair, then we would look at these results and say, oh well what do you expect with that quality of body hair


we get all these body hair results and we are expected to compare the results .........to each other................and some are good , some are horrible....................but it is rare that the docs post donor hair pics for body hair procedures..............so comparing the results without seeing the body donor hair, is a bit deceptive

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DuckTue Mar-13-07 06:04 AM
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#5. "RE: donor hair?"
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More often than not the chest hair is going to be the best robust hair for transplanting. And one should have plenty of it. I agree and said all along attempting to restore a head of hair with all types of body hair is just not adding up. Use it as a filler like others have said.

  

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boomboomTue Mar-13-07 06:12 AM
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#6. "RE: BHT as a filler"
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Tue Mar-13-07 06:18 AM by boomboom

          

Yes I think we are realizing that 5000 bh does not come close at all to 5000 scalp. It seems to be 4 or 5 to 1 scalp hair. Bh undoubtedly is best as a filler. But it's looking better than what I had, and I think Heliboy is not really a pure bh case. He had thousands of scalp hairs from transplants when his bh procedures started.

DR.A used many arm and leg hairs which are whispy. He also placed part of the 5000 on the back of my head by my scars...So what you see may be 3000-3500.I hope people benefit from the work done on me..

  

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HairSiteTue Mar-13-07 06:14 AM
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#7. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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Note that it wasn't the plan to accomplish everything in one visit. One of the main objectives of his first visit was to fix the plugs on his head, here are more before pics of Boomboom. Now that the plugs are gone, I believe the next step is to fill in the thinning areas.





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boomboomTue Mar-13-07 06:24 AM
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#8. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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Tue Mar-13-07 03:57 PM by HairSite

          

edited: <Comments moved to the first post of this thread. >

  

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FranklinTue Mar-13-07 02:51 PM
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#9. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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Observation here. Yes you can see some growth. Thing is I remember a post from Dr. Woods some years ago where he said leg hair and or arm hairs will never give good quality for some density and it's really only good for some fine touch up work. Take a look at the video above Woods just posted. 3000bh grafts most likely taken from the chest area. The hair was more robust therefore he has gained a good cosmetic result.

  

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righteranyTue Mar-13-07 03:50 PM
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#10. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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>Observation here. Yes you can see some growth. Thing is I
>remember a post from Dr. Woods some years ago where he said
>leg hair and or arm hairs will never give good quality for
>some density and it's really only good for some fine touch up
>work. Take a look at the video above Woods just posted.
>3000bh grafts most likely taken from the chest area. The hair
>was more robust therefore he has gained a good cosmetic
>result.

Just saw, that the pictures have gone into the post too.

1st session - 300 FUSE grafts by Dr. A.
Excellent yeild
1500 more grafts placed in my crown - April 06.
http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=12&topic_id=29785&mode=full

  

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#11. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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>I took a few pics with flash and without."

You should take some pictures outside, in the shade. Thats what Dr. Arvind recommended to me. Seems like the flash be too harsh when taking pictures from top and lack of flash or adequate light can reduce the resolution of the pix. See Dens1 pictures. That should give an idea.

1st session - 300 FUSE grafts by Dr. A.
Excellent yeild
1500 more grafts placed in my crown - April 06.
http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=12&topic_id=29785&mode=full

  

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#12. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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You have completed the first step. One day, you will have travelled the next ones and I will be watching your progress.

  

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#13. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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It's good to know that it can be done even for a type VI and even if BHT does not produce ideal growth. It's just going to take a lot of grafts and I assume a lot of money. I think if people did not equate a lot of grafts with a lot of money then no one here would be complaining. If I was told "we can give you a full head of hair but we must use 30,000 or 70% of your body hairs and it's going to cost you $200" I would be more than happy. Mind you if they said "by the way it will take 5 years to achieve" I would't be so pleased.

So, what am I saying? Nothing really. It's 5 o'clock in the U.K. I have had a sh*t day at work and I am going home so that I can obsess about hairloss in a more relaxing environment.

  

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#14. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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Its good that some of it grew but clearly not even close to the 5000 that was implanted. BHT still needs more time to evolve before we can rely on it.

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#15. "RE: Boomboom - 5000 BHT w/ Dr. Arvind, 11 months"
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Tue Mar-13-07 10:41 PM by parable

          

What you guys seem to forget is we are only seeing 3000-3500 grafts on his head.

Remember about 1500-2000 went into his scars at the donor site..

I personally think it's not bad for body hair and the type used.. Not excellent but not bad either..

  

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#16. "Not trying to be negative, but ..."
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Boom, I'm not trying to be negative, but keep things in perspective for folks considering a BHT.

You actually had 8,600 BHT grafts according to your site page 2. That equates to 5,600 recipient sites, but not grafts because the charge is by graft and not recipient site. I think doubling up on the singles is smart BTW.

http://hairsite.com/serendipity/authors/8-boomboom/P2.html

"Altogether 8600 grafts were taken from my body, but 6000 were single hair grafts which Dr. Arvind doubled up equalling 3000 grafts. So this is the result after 5 months of 5600 bh grafts placed."

BTW, without a doubt Heliboy has one of if not the best transformations of anyone on this site. However, I'd like anyone to show me a pic where his scalp is as shiny bald as Boom's (or even mine in the back). It's not there.

Hoping for BHT results!

http://bhtadventresults.blogspot.com/

  

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#17. "RE: Not trying to be negative, but ..."
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It's good to keep it real. And so far I am happy with the procedure, and I hope others benefit in whatever way that is best:)

  

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#18. "Boomboom, Im happy for ya' man"
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You look like a regular guy now in that picture with the surfboard. Not a guy who had an old micro-mini transplant. That smile says it all.


There are men out there who need to be "repaired" so they can look normal, and if BHT can be an avenue to help them out, everyone should be happy for it. A wig is no longer the destiny of those men if they have plenty of body hair. This is a good thing. Nobody should have to hide their hair under a rug because of previous disfigurement. ....

  

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#19. "RE: Not trying to be negative, but ... Well said"
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> And so far I am happy with the procedure, ...

That is what is key!! Each person has to define their own success.

Hoping for BHT results!

http://bhtadventresults.blogspot.com/

  

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#20. "RE: Not trying to be negative, but ... Well said"
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Not even close to 5000. I not 100% convinced about body hair at this time. I know that a lot of guys are baking on it but we have to be realistic here. We’re just not seeing the results.

VIC

  

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#21. "you guys need to get real open your eyes"
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you guys need to read the posts

First of all Scalp grafts are not the same as weak thin body hair grafts

second of all this is NOT 5000 body hair grafts

the post clearly said almost HALF THE GRAFTS DID NOT GO to the area in the pics, THEY WENT INTO THE SCAR in the back

so now we are talking 2500 to 3k BODY HAIRS which is mostly one hair grafts,,,,,,,,,,going into this bald scalp,,,,,,,,the equivalent of about 1000 to 1200 scalp grafts

so this looks very realistic, this result, taking the above figures into account



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#22. "RE: you guys need to get real open your eyes"
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Wed Mar-14-07 05:16 AM by ipod

          

hey hanging, how s it going? what you said is true but if you compare this to dr. Woods' 3000 BHT, the yield is just not there.

http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=12&topic_id=52966&mode=full

Boomboom I am very happy for you that you can go out in public without being self conscious about your plugs. BH cycle is weird,it's still early in the game for you, let's hope you get more growth in another 4-6 months.

  

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#23. "RE: you guys need to get real open your eyes"
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true if you compare side by side to some other BH it does not stack up
but the fact body hair grows at all is amazing and now we are trying to hold it up to these high standards of yield

now granted if most guys had an option body hair is the last choice but some of these guys are out of scalp donor so

they are happy with what they can get.................but body hair is a strange puppy to train

  

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Hey man you surf???i wish i knew how and i wish we had big waves here in greece surfing must be the coolest thing.but your board looks enormous are you some kind of an oldschool surfer?

About your hair its much better than before you got rid of the plugs dont worry about the comments here most of the guys dont know how to take into account the excess of the balding pattern you were full nw6, the fact that you dont use drugs and even if you did they would not make much difference your hairloss has progressed.

80% of the transplants that we see in the forums are propecia and dutasteride results and they think that all transplants will look like that.

3000 bodyhair on your head will look like that and because most of us that we are younger will come to where you are one day we should be very carefull about transplants if we dont like a result like yours...

there are 2 kind of transplants and cannot be compared...the ones in conjuction with fin or dut and the drug free ones

  

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#25. "RE: You guys dont like???"
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Thanks for your wise comments. As you can see, the surf board is a beginner board. It was actually my first time and the board is the size of Sardinia--so it is easier.
Ah Greece. I loved that movie about free diving, alot of it was in Greece. "The Big Blue"

  

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#26. "RE: You guys dont like???"
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Why would anyone want body hair over scalp hair? It should only be used as a last resort.

  

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#27. "RE: You guys dont like???"
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of course....

  

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#28. "RE: You guys dont like???"
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>Why would anyone want body hair over scalp hair? It should
>only be used as a last resort.

It was a last resort for him. Have you seen his pictures? He had severed scarring and depleted scalp donor. Body hair was his only option.

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