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engineerFri Apr-06-07 02:59 PM
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"Results after 10 months, Strip by Dr A"


          

No. of Grafts 3000+
Age 25
Date of Surgery : 07.05.2006
STRIP by Dr. A












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JonnyEFri Apr-06-07 09:49 PM
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#1. "RE: Results after 10 months, Strip by Dr A"
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Well the hair definiltey grew but i dont really like the hairline design.

Minoxidil twice a day
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3083 grafts by Dr. Armani in April 2004

  

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EnderFri Apr-06-07 11:23 PM
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#2. "RE: Results after 10 months, Strip by Dr A"
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Thats a huge area for 3000 grafts to cover...what a difference dark/coarse/wavy hair makes...

  

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FIT2BtiedSat Apr-07-07 04:21 AM
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#3. "RE: Results after 10 months, Strip by Dr A"
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I may be seeing things, but are there some two hair and possibly larger grafts on that hairline? I like singles only there.
This is a great example of the role that hair characteristics play in coverage. Density is one thing, but curl, caliber, color/contrast are also huge!

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Dr. ArvindSat Apr-07-07 06:52 AM
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#7. "Ender"
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Sat Apr-07-07 06:54 AM by Dr. Arvind

          

>Thats a huge area for 3000 grafts to cover...what a
>difference dark/coarse/wavy hair makes...

Dear Ender,
Yes, the characteristics of the patient's hair make a big difference to the final outcome. Engineer has wavy and a comparatively thicker calibre hair.
On the other hand, he has a high degree of scalp skin - hair color contrast.

Keeping all factors in mind, the previous transplant was made at around 55-60 grafts per sq cm.
The aim is to not have to touch the same area twice. We find the one pass transplant to be a more effective option, both in terms of best graft utilization as well as best yield.

Regards,
Dr. A

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
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Dr. ArvindSat Apr-07-07 06:48 AM
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>Well the hair definiltey grew but i dont really like the
>hairline design.

Dear JonnyE,
Thanks for your input.
In more than 10 years of my experience as a hair transplant surgeon, I have found that pictures do not do much justice in showing the true effective hairline look in certain people.

There are 2 broad categories-
Those with broad and almost flat forehead and others with a rounded skull shape.

In the former, the 2 dimensional pictures can convey the results but in the latter, 2 dimensional pictures do not do full justice to the end result.

I will see if I can locate a videoclip which does not show the face of the patient.
Regards,
Dr. A

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
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New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
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JonnyESun Apr-08-07 05:35 PM
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#13. "RE: JonnyE"
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I agree Dr. A, pictures dont always do justice to the work performed.

Minoxidil twice a day
1.25 proscar once a day
3083 grafts by Dr. Armani in April 2004

  

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arunSat Apr-07-07 05:26 AM
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#4. "RE: Results after 10 months, Strip by Dr A"
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Thats an amazing transformation. Should rest doubts about dense packing at rest. If I go for a transplant, I will go for dense one like yours engineer.

  

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FIT2BtiedSat Apr-07-07 05:45 AM
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#5. "RE: Results after 10 months, Strip by Dr A"
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>Thats an amazing transformation. Should rest doubts about
>dense packing at rest. If I go for a transplant, I will go for
>dense one like yours engineer.

Now how does this result lay doubts about dense packing to rest? How do you know how many of them grew? If he had a 70 % yield, you might still be saying that's a nice result. Those are high graft numbers.

There is increasing evidence that perhaps above a certain density, the yield falls off. Maybe that's why some of the viewers are underwhelmed by the result. It COULD be (althought I don't know) that the yield was low but the total number of grafts transplanted still grew out enough hair to show a significant change.

IOW, some feel that the most conservaative route is to do two passes, one each at, say, 35 per cm2 with close to 100% yield, rather than 60 to 70 per cm2 in one procedure with a lower yield. If, for instance, 3000 grafts are planted, and the yield is 70 percent, then 2100 still grow: not bad for a relatively small area. But 900 are gone for good. I'm not saying at all that this is the case here, but we have to re-look at dense-packing in light of new ideas about HT.

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Dr. RubySun Apr-08-07 02:41 PM
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#12. "FIT2BTied"
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Sun Apr-08-07 02:42 PM by Dr. Ruby

  

          

>There is increasing evidence that perhaps above a certain
>density, the yield falls off.

Hello fellow reader,
May I know your credentials? Are you from the front office or technical staff or from the marketing division or are you a doctor?

You issue definitive statements that do not fit the bill of a webmaster. If you clarify your status with IHTI, I will know where you come from amd be able to answer you.

Thankx in advance.

I work for Dr. A's Clinic as a hair transplant surgeon.
My opinions need not be shared by Dr. Arvind Poswal.
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FIT2BtiedMon Apr-09-07 07:46 PM
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#15. "RE: FIT2BTied"
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>>There is increasing evidence that perhaps above a certain
>>density, the yield falls off.
>
>Hello fellow reader,
>May I know your credentials? Are you from the front office or
>technical staff or from the marketing division or are you a
>doctor?
>
>You issue definitive statements that do not fit the bill of a
>webmaster. If you clarify your status with IHTI, I will know
>where you come from amd be able to answer you.
>
>Thankx in advance.

Doctor Ruby,
I am many things, but here I am posting as a patient of IHTI. I have also done work for them, and a lot of research. As far as the definitive statements, I DO try to be a little cautious with that; notice that in the sentence above I said that "PERHAPS above a certain density, the yield falls off..."
What I'd really like to do is stimulate conversations about issues like this; in other words, what truly IS the optimal density for transplantation, and how do we assess that? This sort of thing. Rather than just, "here are my results, don't they look _______?"
Which is important too, but there are many aspects of HT that are still unknowns, as you well know, that we would do well to discuss.
Thanks.

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Dr. RubyTue Apr-10-07 11:14 AM
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#18. "RE: FIT2BTied"
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Tue Apr-10-07 11:21 AM by Dr. Ruby

  

          

>"PERHAPS above a certain density, the yield falls off..."

Thank you for clarifying your status with IHTI.

I would be interested if you can point me to any recent published study/paper, in last couple of years, on this topic.

I work for Dr. A's Clinic as a hair transplant surgeon.
My opinions need not be shared by Dr. Arvind Poswal.
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#20. "RE: FIT2BTied"
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>>"PERHAPS above a certain density, the yield falls off..."
>
>Thank you for clarifying your status with IHTI.
>
>I would be interested if you can point me to any recent
>published study/paper, in last couple of years, on this topic.

Yes, sir. There was one just recently that Lee et al published in Derm. Surgery (I think June 2006).
It was done using singles, but they also referenced a previous study with 2's, I believe. Again, a small study, but I believe thay are compiling a much larger data base.
Mike Beehner did one a few years ago that pointed to the same thing, ie, lower densities=higher yield. Another HT doc had one too, I am blanking out on that one. These were both flawed studies, but point in the same direction.
Cole et al, have a LOT of as-of-yet unpublished data that shows similar results, both w/ scalp and body hair. It seems with his data that around 28 to 35 grafts per cm2 is about optimal. There may be a decrease at higher densities (eg, 50 to 75) by as much as 70% to 65%.
Again, this is early data and incomplete as I said before, but intriguing.

What is your clinical impression frm your work with Dr. A?

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#28. "RE: FIT2BTied"
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Wed Apr-11-07 04:43 AM by Dr. Ruby

  

          

>>>"PERHAPS above a certain density, the yield falls off..."
>>
>>Thank you for clarifying your status with IHTI.
>>
>>I would be interested if you can point me to any recent
>>published study/paper, in last couple of years, on this
>topic.
>
>Yes, sir. There was one just recently that Lee et al published
>in Derm. Surgery (I think June 2006).
>It was done using singles, but they also referenced a previous
>study with 2's, I believe. Again, a small study, but I believe
>thay are compiling a much larger data base.
>Mike Beehner did one a few years ago that pointed to the same
>thing, ie, lower densities=higher yield. Another HT doc had
>one too, I am blanking out on that one. These were both flawed
>studies, but point in the same direction.

Thank you, even though you call me sir and change my gender.

However, I prefer the studies/papers published in the indexed, peer reviewed journals. They are the ones that matter.
As far as I know, none of the articles you refer to, have been published by any indexed journal.
It may be the authors never submitted them to an indexed, peer reviewed journal as an oversight.

I work for Dr. A's Clinic as a hair transplant surgeon.
My opinions need not be shared by Dr. Arvind Poswal.
www.fusehair.com
Please email your queries to -
www.hairadvise101@yahoo.com

  

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#35. "RE: FIT2BTied"
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>
>Thank you, even though you call me sir and change my gender.
>
>However, I prefer the studies/papers published in the indexed,
>peer reviewed journals. They are the ones that matter.
>As far as I know, none of the articles you refer to, have been
>published by any indexed journal.
>It may be the authors never submitted them to an indexed, peer
>reviewed journal as an oversight.

Oh my, I'm sorry Dr. Ruby! I didn't know you were a woman, my appologies Just a mindless assumption...
Well, Derm Surgery IS indeed a peer reviewed journal, indexed in PubMed, etc. You're right, I prefer those too; it is not unheard of, however, for authors to include personal communications from others regarding unpublished data that is "in the works", so to speak. As I said, the other two were flawed studies. Along with the data we're compiling, there is a trend that we see that suggests lower densities produce higher yields and vice versa. I will try to post some photos of a study in progress with BHT that may be illuminating, at least in terms of this trend.

Sorry again about my mistake, ma'am! I am from the South and was brought up better than that!

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engineerSat Apr-07-07 10:11 AM
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#8. "RE: Results after 10 months, Strip by Dr A"
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Hairs: I have very dark, thick, curly and coarse hairs.

Hairline: I discussed with Dr A and decided that we go for this kind of hairline which looks natural/familiar( as in my case abt 2 years ago i had this kind of hairline only)
Although it looks that area covered is quite large but its only 50+ cm2. As Dr. A mentioned, abt 60grafts/cm2
As i decided that i will not touch this area on the head again, so opted for this kind of density.

As far as i remember there are only SINGLE hair grafts in the hairline and i am very satisfied with the results

  

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marcoSat Apr-07-07 11:39 AM
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#9. "$64000 question"
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Sat Apr-07-07 11:42 AM by marco

          

Dr. A. Could you have acheived the same result with FUE? Why was strip chosen?

BTW really good photo quality and angles.

  

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#10. "RE: $64000 question"
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>Dr. A. Could you have acheived the same result with FUE? Why
>was strip chosen?
>
>BTW really good photo quality and angles.

Dear Marco,
We always explain the differences in both the methods - strip as well as FUSE/fue - and let the patient decide which one he wants. Because I believe the doctors should respect the choice of educated and aware patients instead of dogmatically imposing ones own views. This choice is given to patients in other surgeries too.

Engineer chose to go for the strip FUHT procedure and we respect his choice, as it is based on his research and what he is comfortable with.
Patient has to see how to fit his hair transplant into his life. Not the other way round.

For the same # of grafts and same hair characteristics etc., yes! the same result can be acheived by FUSE too.


Just out of curiosity, why did you call it the $64,000/- question.

3000 strip FUHT grafts cost USD 3500/- only (no extra taxes).
3000 FUSE/fue grafts cost USD 12,000/- only (no extra taxes).

So, I am curious to know what $64,000/- refers to.

Regards,
Dr. A

Dr.(Capt) Arvind Poswal
Dr. A's Clinic,
A-9,First Floor,
C.R. Park, (Near Nehru Place),
New Delhi-110019, India. www.fusehair.com
e-mail: poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
Ph- 91-011-26274368,91-098-101-78062
Timings-10a.m.to 5p.m
Scalp & Body hair transplants.

  

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#11. "RE: $64000 question"
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Sat Apr-07-07 10:06 PM by marco

          

>So, I am curious to know what $64,000/- refers to.
>
>Regards,
>Dr. A


Sorry about that. I am in the U.K and there was a quiz show (a long time ago; 1960s) that kind of worked its way into our language. It was something like a current international show called who wants to be a millionaire. Nowadays the top prize for these quiz shows and for the lottery is often over a million dollars but in that time the top prize was $64000. If you answered the question correctly that's what you won but.... the question was always difficult. the phrase was born and is still used when a difficult or big question is posed "here's the $64000 question" or here's the 2,729,600 INR question"

There is a wikipedia entry about this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_$64,000_Question


Regards,
Marco

  

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#14. "video"
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Video provided by Dr. Arvind's clinic, be sure to click FULL VIEW on your video player to see the result properly.

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-transplant-video/3000-strip-transplant.wmv



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#16. "RE: video"
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>Video provided by Dr. Arvind's clinic, be sure to click FULL
>VIEW on your video player to see the result properly.
>
>http://www.hairsite.com/hair-transplant-video/3000-strip-transplant.wmv

I couldn't really see much more with the video. Not very close up, and I thought there would be movement like a camera pan across the patient's front, or maybe, the patient moving HIS head to show different perspectives as the light changed. Disappointing.

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#17. "not of the same caliber"
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Itís an ok result but certainly not of the same caliber as some other results. I have to agree with JonnyE and am really not feeling the hairline design. His temples go straight across and really needs to be closed more.

From head on the design looks ok but to the side itís a dead ringer for a hair transplant. I would say that 90% of hair transplant can fool the average Joe with the clever styling (like this one) but itís the 10% results Iím after and it seems few surgeons can really provide that.

VIC

  

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#22. "RE: not of the same caliber"
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>Itís an ok result but certainly not of the same caliber as
>some other results. I have to agree with JonnyE and am really
>not feeling the hairline design. His temples go straight
>across and really needs to be closed more.
>

You must be seeing results that I have not. If you think this is ok result, what do you consider a great one. A bear rug?
This is one of the clearest pictures and video I have seen in a long time. Wish other doctors follow suit.

  

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#26. "This is great"
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>Itís an ok result but certainly not of the same caliber as
>some other results. I have to agree with JonnyE and am really
>not feeling the hairline design. His temples go straight
>across and really needs to be closed more.
>
>From head on the design looks ok but to the side itís a dead
>ringer for a hair transplant. I would say that 90% of hair
>transplant can fool the average Joe with the clever styling
>(like this one) but itís the 10% results Iím after and it
>seems few surgeons can really provide that.
>


if hair transplantation has advanced to the point that one can call this a poor result then everything is great and no one has anything to worry about. When I go fully bald and I can expect a result like this at the very least then we should just close the forum down and all go to Dr. A know that this is a bad as it gets and be very very happy!!!!

  

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Dr. RubyTue Apr-10-07 11:20 AM
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#19. "RE: video"
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>>Video provided by Dr. Arvind's clinic, be sure to click
>FULL
>>VIEW on your video player to see the result properly.
>>
>>http://www.hairsite.com/hair-transplant-video/3000-strip-transplant.wmv
>
>I couldn't really see much more with the video. Not very close
>up, and I thought there would be movement like a camera pan
>across the patient's front, or maybe, the patient moving HIS
>head to show different perspectives as the light changed.
>Disappointing.

My apologies for disappointing you. Videos can help by giving a depth to the perception. Something like binocular vision.
In case of Engineer, the pictures sort of give a flat perception of the forehead, that the video helps to overcome.

I will try to incorporate your ideas when we take future videos. Meantime, it would be very helpful if you can point me to some videoclips, the like of which you refer to.
That will be very helpful. At this point the only other clinics that have posted videos, besides us, are H/W and Dr. Woods.

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My opinions need not be shared by Dr. Arvind Poswal.
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FIT2BtiedTue Apr-10-07 09:09 PM
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#25. "RE: video"
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>My apologies for disappointing you. Videos can help by giving
>a depth to the perception. Something like binocular vision.
>In case of Engineer, the pictures sort of give a flat
>perception of the forehead, that the video helps to overcome.
>
>I will try to incorporate your ideas when we take future
>videos. Meantime, it would be very helpful if you can point me
>to some videoclips, the like of which you refer to.
>That will be very helpful. At this point the only other
>clinics that have posted videos, besides us, are H/W and Dr.
>Woods.


Doctor, YOU did not disappoint me. I was glad that we were afforded the relative luxury of a video, just disappointed that I couldn't see more.
It is very difficult to find, and rare for a patient to consent to internet video. I wish I COULD point you to some more but they are few and far between. Just trying to give some feedback for future ones.

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FWWed Apr-11-07 04:13 PM
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#30. "RE: video"
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I liked the result. Thats the density HM guys keep promising. Can everyone get this by transplant?

  

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#21. "Choose FULL VIEW mode"
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Please make sure you choose FULL VIEW mode when viewing the video, it makes a big difference.


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arunTue Apr-10-07 06:28 PM
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#23. "RE: video"
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>
>I couldn't really see much more with the video. Not very close
>up, and I thought there would be movement like a camera pan
>across the patient's front, or maybe, the patient moving HIS
>head to show different perspectives as the light changed.
>Disappointing.

Has IHTI posted any videos? If not, its a shame you speaking of disappointments.
Personally, the better the picture quality and the more the videos the better it is for us patients.

  

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FIT2BtiedTue Apr-10-07 09:05 PM
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#24. "RE: video"
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>>
>>I couldn't really see much more with the video. Not very
>close
>>up, and I thought there would be movement like a camera pan
>>across the patient's front, or maybe, the patient moving HIS
>>head to show different perspectives as the light changed.
>>Disappointing.
>
>Has IHTI posted any videos? If not, its a shame you speaking
>of disappointments.
>Personally, the better the picture quality and the more the
>videos the better it is for us patients.


Why is it not OK for me, also a HT patient, to be disappointed that I couldn't see better? It is not a judgement against anyone, just my personal observation that I couldn't get a better look.
As far as IHTI, it is very rare for a patient to give consent to have their visage video'd across cyberspace. I thought it was great that this gentleman did, just sorry I couldn't see much.

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thegreek2Wed Apr-11-07 01:33 AM
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#27. "for Dr.A and Fit2b"
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Wed Apr-11-07 01:35 AM by thegreek2

          

Fit2b you are correct regarding the video it was not enough the camera should rotate around the patients head and that is something that all the clinics should do. If you do something try to do it perfect and honest or else dont do it all thats my opinion...And that goes for all the clinics

On the other hand fit2b your attempts to discredit another clinic are pathetic simply because....Where are the videos from the clinic you are associated with???

Well if you had some and you didnt resort to stupid excuses i would applaude your remarks regarding Dr.A's Video

as for the comments that you are another observer that wants to see the best like us and you are dissapointed e.t.c....we have a saying here in greece maybe you have it 2... "once you are on a teams payroll you stop beiing a fan."Its the sad truth my friend and maybe you havent even realized it yet

there are 2 kind of transplants and cannot be compared...the ones in conjuction with fin or dut and the drug free ones

  

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sizzlerWed Apr-11-07 02:54 PM
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#29. "RE: for Dr.A and Fit2b"
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>Fit2b you are correct regarding the video it was not enough
>the camera should rotate around the patients head and that is
>something that all the clinics should do. If you do something
>try to do it perfect and honest or else dont do it all thats
>my opinion...And that goes for all the clinics
>
>On the other hand fit2b your attempts to discredit another
>clinic are pathetic simply because....Where are the videos
>from the clinic you are associated with???
>
>Well if you had some and you didnt resort to stupid excuses i
>would applaude your remarks regarding Dr.A's Video
>
>as for the comments that you are another observer that wants
>to see the best like us and you are dissapointed e.t.c....we
>have a saying here in greece maybe you have it 2... "once you
>are on a teams payroll you stop beiing a fan."Its the sad
>truth my friend and maybe you havent even realized it yet
>

I agree that F2Btied is making a fool of himself.
Videos are a step forward.
While these may not be Steven Spielberg calibre, Dr. A has tried to lead the way forward.
Giving positive suggestions helps improve the standards of presenting the results overall.

Dont give the lame excuse that patients dont agree their ht result being shown.
IHTI shows pictures without showing the face. Dont they?
F2betied should just show similar videos as the pictures, without showing the face. Videos can not be manipulated, pictures can be.


As for the result, it looks natural, dense and I have seen people on the street with natural hairline like these.

  

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Dr. ArvindWed Apr-11-07 05:52 PM
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#31. "Higher standards"
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Dear Greek, sizzler etc.,
Thanks for your supportive words and critic.
We are used to a higher level of scrutiny while presenting our patient results. As I sometimes say, we have to prove ourselves twice as well.
But we dont mind that. That helps us improve more, and, at the same time, validates our results that much more.
Inputs of all forum readers regarding how we can improve the presentation of our results, so as to leave nothing to imagination, are most welcome. Hopefully, that will set the standard to be followed.
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FIT2BtiedWed Apr-11-07 09:13 PM
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#32. "RE: Higher standards"
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Wed Apr-11-07 09:25 PM by FIT2Btied

          

Greek and Sizzler,

I am sorry you feel that my affiliation with a clinic means I should not give feedback. I am not in control of what my clinic puts up on the web.

But as for your contention that I was not giving any feedback; go look at my post, I suggested very positive things, eg, panning, zooming close-ups, etc.

And if you look at the video Dr. Woods put up today, you will see exactly what I was suggesting in that clip, and to a much improved effect.



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#33. "RE: Higher standards"
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Thu Apr-12-07 05:49 AM by finallyfree

  

          

>And if you look at the video Dr. Woods put up today, you will
>see exactly what I was suggesting in that clip, and to a much
>improved effect.
>
>
>
>

Fit2Btied,
I do not want to detract from Dr. Woods result, but I do not think that video is anywhere near good enough.
The lighting conditions are poor and the shadow of, probably Woods himself, is clearly falling on the scalp, making the lighting even worse.
Also, they are not accompanied by high resolution pictures.

All that apart, its sad when you say that you are not allowed any say in what your clinic posts. If so, I recommend you devote a bulk of your time and efforts to convincing IHTI to post many videos of the type you suggest.
You have to learn to walk the walk.

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FIT2BtiedThu Apr-12-07 06:14 PM
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#34. "RE: Higher standards"
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>>And if you look at the video Dr. Woods put up today, you
>will
>>see exactly what I was suggesting in that clip, and to a
>much
>>improved effect.
>>
>>
>
>Fit2Btied,
>I do not want to detract from Dr. Woods result, but I do not
>think that video is anywhere near good enough.
>The lighting conditions are poor and the shadow of, probably
>Woods himself, is clearly falling on the scalp, making the
>lighting even worse.
>Also, they are not accompanied by high resolution pictures.
>
>All that apart, its sad when you say that you are not allowed
>any say in what your clinic posts. If so, I recommend you
>devote a bulk of your time and efforts to convincing IHTI to
>post many videos of the type you suggest.
>You have to learn to walk the walk.


All I was saying in my initial post regarding Dr. Woods video, is that it was an improvement over the one we saw previously. In other words, there was movement around the patient's head, and much more in the way of close-ups. Better, not perfect.
Notice how I was slagged for even expressing disappointment over my inability to see a lot with the first one. Yet people are all over Dr. Woods about this one, even though he has said the quality degraded with transfer.
I don't think it's close to perfect, but it was an improvement, that's all.
As for us, we have been working with a professional videographer to try to produce some high quality vids to post (eventually). It is much harder than I had thought, especially in terms of lighting (not to mention getting people in from all over the world to have these shot, after 10 to 12 months or more. They are getting on with their lives, for the most part).
Our guy says the difficulty of good vids vs still photos is sort of exponentially higher. We are working on it. It has been said by more than one on this forum that "if you can't do it perfectly, don't put it up". Not sure that I agree with that, but if no one puts them up, and no one then offers constructive criticism, as I and other have, then how will we ever know?
And I did not say that I had no say in what my clinic puts up; I said I had no control, which means I have to wait until it is ready, especially with the expectations of the forum members. They want perfect, and we are working towards that, as I have stated. I have many other duties besides reading and posting in forums



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